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dark and shallow lies: author interview || a delightfully dark cup of tea

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Author: Ginny Myers Sain

Series: Duology

Publisher: Penguin Random House

Genre: Mystery/Fantasy YA

Hello Ginny! Welcome to The Fictional Journal! Congratulations on publishing your first book! And a huge thank you to TBR and Beyond Tours for this opportunity. Before we start this interview, could you give us a one-line pitch for your book.

Thank you so much! I’m so excited for the chance to share a little bit about this book with your readers!

When Grey returns to her hometown deep in the Louisiana bayou, she must battle reluctant psychics, generational secrets, and confusing visions of her own in order to find out the terrifying  truth about her best friend’s disappearance. 

1. The Dark and Shallow Lies is a wonderfully crafted mystery tale and I absolutely loved how you structured the world. How did you come up with this idea and what drove you to create this world?

La Cachette itself is not a real place, of course, but the town was very loosely inspired by two actual places. The first is the tiny town of Cassadaga, Florida, which I was lucky enough to stumble upon  during a road trip across the sunshine state. Cassadaga really does bill itself as the “Psychic Capital of the World” and its tiny town square is lined with astrologists and tarot card readers and fortune tellers. I was standing on the steps of the bookstore there when a question popped into my mind: How do you keep a secret in a town full of psychics? And that question became the seed for the story.  

However, Cassadaga was a bit too accessible for what I had in mind. I needed a place that was more cut-off from the world. Somewhere a little harder to get to…and to escape from. I had spent a lot of time in Louisiana over the years and had fallen so deeply in love with the swampy landscapes, the culture, and the people, and my mind went back to a little place called Pilottstown, which served for years as a home to riverboat pilots on the Mississippi River. It was accessible only from the water. No roads lead there. So that became the inspiration for the geographical location.


2. It was a delight following the story through Grey’s eyes and the side characters were equally entertaining adding to the un-putdown-ness of the book. Are there any characters in the book that you relate to on a personal level? If yes, was it intentional or just as unexpected?

Hart was actually the first character that came to me, and he’s always been my favorite. He was just one of those characters who showed up fully formed and breathing. I just felt like I knew him so well. He was 100% alive and real in my head. I came to know and love them all, of course, but Hart was special to me. We are a lot alike in that we both tend to keep things to ourselves. So I felt like I sort of understood him. And the idea of this psychic empath who feels everyone’s emotions, but is still very sort of closed-off emotionally himself was just super interesting to me. 


3. One can only imagine the amount of hard work that actually goes into writing a book. What was the hardest part of this process for you? And how many drafts did it take you to finally be satisfied with it?

It does take a lot of work! And a lot of revision! I did about three drafts on my own, then one more with my agent, and one more with my editor. Sometimes there were big changes between drafts, and sometimes just minor ones. But the main thing was that I knew the story was stronger with each draft, and that’s what gives you the energy to keep working away at it.


4. What’s your favorite quote from this book? And would you care to share something about any of your upcoming projects if any?

There’s a scene where one of the characters  says, “There are some things only the storm can teach us.” And that’s definitely one of my favorite lines. It just speaks so much about life. We all have so much hardship, and hopefully we are able to learn from it and move forward. 

I had a two-book contract, so I’m working on book two, which should be out in the fall of 2022. I can’t say a lot about it, but it is also a standalone YA mystery/thriller with some magical/paranormal elements. Think waves, lighthouses, salt in the air. It’s actually set in the world of the theatre, so I’m excited to bring my love of theatre and my love of writing together for this project!  


5. And lastly, I have seen so many bloggers ask this question, so I am going to hop on board. Can you give me a string of 5-7 emojis that encompass your book? 

~ Thank you so much! It was great having you here! Congratulations once more and good luck! ~

Thank you! This was fun!

Ginny Myers Sain is the author of DARK AND SHALLOW LIES, her debut YA novel available 8-31-21 from Razorbill/Penguin. Although she comes from a long line of writers, her first love has always been the theatre. She has a degree in theatre and has spent most of her career teaching acting and directing plays and musicals. Ginny currently live in Tulsa, Oklahoma, with her teenage son and a very cowardly doberman named Shipley. When she is not working in the theatre or writing, you’re likely to find her listening to true crime podcasts, taking pictures of alligators, eating tacos, or planning a trip to Walt Disney World.

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